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Leadership Conference Patagonia President and CEO Michael Crooke on Leading With Creativity and Conviction
Crooke will be a keynote speaker at the 2nd Annual Wharton West Leadership Conference in San Francisco on February 2, 2005. In preparation for the conference, Professor Michael Useem, director of Wharton's Center for Leadership and Change Management, recently interviewed Crooke about leadership, employees, and the environment. Useem: How would you describe your approach to decision making in the leadership role that you play? Crooke: My career started off with the SEAL teams in the Navy when I was 19 years old, and those experiences have been the basis, or thesis, of my leadership style. In the SEALS, I learned that you get superior results from great teams of people, and I've just built on that throughout my career. When I came to Patagonia, within the first couple of years, I brought in seven new people. So roughly half of our senior staff has been here for close to 20 years, and half were bringing new skill sets to the group. Useem: What is one of the bigger or tougher decisions that you have had to make in recent years at Patagonia? Crooke: I would say bringing in all those new people was definitely a shake up of the organization. It had to be done, and without stifling the creative culture, because it's a wonderful culture. That was a lot of change and a lot of newness for the organization. Probably more change has occurred in the past 5 years than the organization has seen in the last 15 years. Melding the new with the old, and creating the next wave of the next 30 years of Patagonia — that's been a real challenge. We are as healthy as we've ever been as an organization by any metric that you want to use. Useem: What are the metrics you use to evaluate success? Crooke: For Patagonia, the metrics of success are based around the employees, the products, and the environmental aspects of the organization. Those include everything from profitability to employee turnover to the quality measures that we have for our products to our inventions and innovations. All are geared for creating competitive advantage. Useem: Could you elaborate on the issue of employees? What aspects of the employee experience or condition do you track? Crooke: This year, we were listed as the 14th best medium company to work for by Fortune magazine, but my goal is to be #1. I like that survey because three-quarters of the data that they collect to rank the companies comes from the employees themselves, without any input from management. To me, that is a real measure of the employees' passion for the organization. It measures their benefits and how they feel valued. It measures their training, their career potential, and the life and balance issues that the organization has. Those are metrics that are very important to me in terms of employees. Useem: Do you think those metrics would be viable in a company that is publicly traded? Crooke: Absolutely. You might have a different type of investor that is interested in a company that is more long-term oriented. We look at our strategic plans, and we look at what we invest in terms of the social side of our business as well as the environmental side, or the product side. We're looking 10 or 20 years ahead. If you're an investor looking for solid ROI, you'd be looking at a company like us and have a lot of confidence. Interface, Inc. [a publicly traded carpet manufacturer], has actually reduced their cost of goods by recycling products once their useful life is over, which has given them a competitive advantage. Their founder, Ray Anderson, went through years and years of tough times on Wall Street because they didn't think he could do it, but he did it. He's a true hero in sustainability circles. Useem: In 2001, Yvon Chouinard co-founded the non-profit 1% For The Planet, an alliance of businesses committed to donating at least one percent of their annual net revenues to environmental organizations. Can you explain Patagonia's role in creating this organization?
Learn more about leadership in business at the 2nd Annual Wharton West Leadership Conference Leading With Creativity and Conviction in San Francisco, February 2, 2005. Other speakers include:
Sponsored by the Wharton Center for Human Resources, Wharton Center for Leadership and Change Management, and Wharton Executive Education, the Wharton West Leadership Conference brings together business leaders and leadership development professionals for open dialogue and discussion. Join peers and colleagues from the following companies who have already registered: AIG, Allstate, Cisco, Genentech, Hitachi, Intel, Microsoft, Philips, Time Warner, Wells Fargo, Visa International, and others. To register, please contact a program consultant at 800.255.3932 or on the web. Group pricing available.
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